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Delhi, India: 99 photos of Anti-Gang Rape Protest 印度全民激憤!

Damini

Commentary from Cecilia: As I watch all of India mobilised into days of mass protest over the brutal gang rape incident of a 23 yrs old young woman, I wished I could say that this was something “shocking” about the problems of New Delhi living. But alas, I don’t think so. I wished I could say that Delhi had lost its innocence by encountering such a heinous crime for the first time ever..but that is not true. Sexual Harassment is routine in the night life of New Delhi.

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Before anyone start screaming “Boohoo,you are picking on India…” Know that I say this from personal experience as a teenager visiting your capital over 2 decades ago and I’m saying this after having strong ties with many human rights lobbyists in your country for over a decade. 

So let me share my anecdotal experience of one New year’s Eve in New Delhi outside a hotel around Windsor Place…..years ago….

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“My Polish-Australian friend and I were out for New Year’s Eve at one of the 5 star hotels nearby for the New Year’s Eve count-down. After the count down, like quite a few tourists staying locally we decided to walk back to our hotel, only one big block from where we were. Along the way there were loads of cars and loads of other people, though yes, all the women out on the streets were clearly tourists walking back to their hotels like us. It was a very celebratory atmosphere, people were exuberant and honking their horns on the streets. Even police cars were celebrating the new year!

We were about to walk past a group of city workers in suits and ties, when one of them came forward and wished me a Happy New year!  He was polite and jokingly asked me for a New Year’s kiss…I told him we can shake hands like he would with his sister! So we did…we shook hands!  He laughed and asked me where we were going and said I should get a taxi  ….and this seemed like a very harmless comment, but something made my alarm bells go off…..

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It was in mid-conversation that I realised, my Polish Aussie friend was missing and was no longer beside me!!!!

I looked around, only to see a circle of guys standing about 1m away from our chats. Then I saw my friend’s shoes peeking out from  inside the circle, she was silent and shocked. I reached in and grabbed her by the arm and dragged her out of the circle and away from her molesters!

From Across the road,  I turned around and verbally abused the guy who was distracting me in a suit while his friends Groped my friend. I was  screaming from across the busy road so Everyone could hear me point to him as a  “Freako sex pervert! and how I hope his bloody mother cuts off his penis when she finds out about this so he will not be Shaming her in all of New Delhi as a woman who gave birth to a Sicko wannabe-Rapist!”

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He screams back,”Look, I never touched no one! No one touched you! Stop shouting this! “

I screeched,”Your f*cking arsehole friends groped my friend! You arseholes, come near us and I’m castrating your entire family and taking out your balls with piano wires!”

I could hear his friends saying something in Hindi as I pointed them out to anyone or anything that would listen..and I could hear the first guy saying something about Chinese to them!

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They all started dissipating and he just yelled back the most stupid comment I had ever heard in my life,“Look, no one touched you! Your friend is different (meaning white!), she doesn’t mind!”

This exchanged occurred with us screaming at one another across the busy road…so there were lots of witnesseses. I think someone took a photo of the Pervert guy in a suit screaming back at me about how he never touched me! So we kept moving after checking that they were not following us in anyway, they were not, if anything they ran off really fast.

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My friend completely froze and was in shock! I said,”Keep walking, why didn’t you call me when they grabbed you?”

She said,”I was just taken by surprise.”

As we walked to our hotel, a slimey little person kept approaching the western women walking on the road. There were 2 blonde women walking in front of us who just ignored him. He tried to come up to me at about 2 metres away and pointed to a car slow crawling along the curb. He asked every western women on behalf of the guys in the car to get in the car!

My response also involved somebody’s scrotums and piano wires! ( It sounds funny now but it is much more serious when I say it in a Big  Adrenalin rush of Temper, making loads of noise and ready to push someone under a bus !lol.) Then again, the slimey moron looked like a stunted Lemur!

Again, the slimey little man ran off and approached the next set of female western tourists soliciting them to get in the car.

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These incidents of Sexual harassment were not unique to me or my friends, that evening probably every woman walking back to their hotels, encountered something similar in varying degrees !

It is the complete mundane-ness of the situation that interested me when I read about the disgusting and brutal Gang rape. The culture of sexual harassment had clearly been normalised with the modernisation of the New Delhi city grid.  No wonder they are asking people to not hold New Years Eve parties!

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I am  so very sorry that the young lady in question encountered such a brutal fate. I think it is endemic of the city of New Delhi night life, though the degrees of aggression and violence were clearly what disgusted and outraged the city’s millions of citizens. You would be lying to yourself if as a citizen of New Delhi you tried to claim that you had NEVER seen this kind of sexual harassment on the streets!

Many mentioned that women should not be given anti-rape classes but that only the men should be taught to not rape. I find that a nice political slogan but not very practical.

My response to the sexual Harassers of my friend were text book anti-rape class moves:

1) Establish Boundaries- Clear NO!

2) Physically establish boundaries

3) Force an eye-eye Human interactions in the surroundings As soon as possible!

4) Physically remove yourself from danger, by any means necessary. Do not be afraid to Scream, Physically Defend yourself, Cause a giant Scene, Stop Traffic,  Destroy property, set off alarms  to get attention about feeling unsafe…do anything necessary to Physically get to a point where you are not Isolated.

5) Emotional boundaries-Blame Him, NEVER blame yourself! By any means necessary, express whatever emotions you need to  Stay Empowered!

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Training like this is about focusing on the Woman’s emotional, physical and mental well-being in the course of training her to get herself to safety by any means necessary should she be found in a situation of potential danger!

You can knock it all you like, I think Every woman living in a modern City should voluntarily take this kind of Assertiveness classes. I am not going to lie to you….Years of such training meant that when confronted with Potentially Violent Energy, I am personally willing to do whatever actions necessary to “Save myself  by Incapacitating him as fast as possible for as long as it takes to do so!”…

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I think it is a mistake to Deprive Young women of Anti-Rape Assertiveness Training in High School and at Universities! I’m not an expert but I have had a few introductory sessions  as a teenager with a retired ex-Australian military hand-hand close combat experts who specialised in converting Martial Arts of China and Japan into Free Style Tactics!  I think it is a genuinely useful skill in life….a bit like Bush-survival training….of course I don’t ever want to be stranded in the outback without food, water and a radio…but the Odds of coming out of the situation Alive is so much higher if you had some survival training!

There is nothing wrong with Women deciding to take Classes to Defend themselves…of course I would rather a world where there is no need to do that…but then I accept that there are Dickheads on this earth and it is by far better that as an empowered Assertive Woman, I learn how to  Incapacitate (in any way necessary) my attackers so I can get away to safety than to not know.

29th December 2012 - peaceful protest after the death of the 23-year-old student from New Dehli who died from her injuries caused by a gang-rape two weeks earlier. (5)

Okay, possibly the Chinese version of what one should to do one’s sexual harasser is a bit Vengeful…but oh well…it is all in the Branding! And as Bill Gate would say,”I didn’t build Micro-soft by writing Cheques”…and the Cantonese Refrain is,”We didn’t get to 6000 yrs by massaging the toes of anyone who tries to step on us! “

It is so important to get the right training! Always always learn from a Professional!

But on a more civilised note, I think Ajay’s letter is a better way of lobbying for change. Though I still  don’t have any problems with giving Women the right to bear Arms in New Delhi at night! 🙂 To me, it is a very sensible solution. It will probably reduce the incidents of groping of female tourists in town!

An Open Letter to the Prime Minister: It’s not anger Mr. Prime Minister, its Guiltby Ajay Kumar on Friday, 28 December 2012·

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Dear Mr. Prime Minster,

The Delhi rape victim died early today morning (4:45 AM Singapore time). She was brutally raped on the 16th of December this year. She succumbed to her injuries and passed away. This brutal crime which happened at the heart of the National Capital made us wake up as a society to the fact that as a people we have failed to keep ourselves safe.

Government ministers and the media made a noise saying that as a nation we were angry. Angry at our Government, our institutions our police. We even threw stones at them at Raj Path to protest the institutional failure. But Mr Prime Minster it’s not anger that drove these protests its guilt.

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We all have to bear the guilt for her death. As a society we could not protect our own. We had the vote, but her safety was never on our mind when we voted. Some of us even refused to exercise our franchise citing the fact that the candidates on offer were not good enough. The rest of us voted governments into power based on trivial things like caste, religion and economic incentives and today we reap the result of our apathy. We could not protect one of our own.

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I do not blame you or your government. You are but a creation of this national apathy. All of you in Parliament who will rise up and give rousing speeches calling for the most harrowing of punishments. But rape is not a new problem. It’s been there in this country as long as any of us, the young and the old can remember. Where were these speeches before this crime? It took the most brutal of attacks this nation has witnessed one of its own to wake you up. But I do not blame you, as a people we allowed you to sleep. We watched and even took sides as we watched Parliament after Parliament succumb to a legislative paralysis because our own MP’s could not get along with each other on issues of national importance. We saw the sexist and chauvinist remarks passed on the floor of the house and we kept quiet. We never took this into consideration when we voted. Like I said, we are guilty today. We are guilty of a grave negligence, we could not protect her in Delhi, and we had a duty to.

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We are guilty of not looking at women as human beings in this country. She is always someone’s mother, sister, wife, grandmother as though she has no personality of her own. We drew this into our rhetoric and made her something less than human saying that she needed a man to gain her identity. You did not do this, we did and you merely reflected our views.

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Her blood is on all of our hands, the duty to bring the culprits to justice is ours to bear. But Mr. Prime Minister, you, the government, the opposition and the administration are mere symbols of an apathy that we as a nation have built up over the years. We will come out and shout in large numbers to convince you to act, but you will be apathetic, because we as a people are apathetic and what reason do we have not to be so? The system when it began at the stroke of a midnight hour in 1947 was labelled to be the greatest experiment in the world. This experiment has failed, we failed it. If you are what we have today then as a nation we have failed.

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I send this letter to you today in the early hours of a Saturday Morning to say that I do not expect anything better from you or your government, I do not expect anything better from Parliament and our institutions. The way you have acted is the way you were taught to act. This leviathan that is built out of a national apathetic angst is acting the way it was designed to act.

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But however I would like to remind you, that now we are aware of the blood on our hands and are aware of our responsibilities, the apathy will go and if you have to keep your seats you need to radically change the way you do things. As citizens and voters we are.

Sincerely

Ajay Kumar

A concerned citizen.

Copy to:
His Excellency the President of India
His Excellency the Vice-President of India
The Honourable Speaker of the Lok Sabha.
The Honourable Leader of the Opposition

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femen india (logo)99 Images of New Delhi Protests in the last 2 weeks over Xmas 2012! Wherever possible we attributed the (c) of the photographer so if there’s any images you would like to find out the copyrights of …just simply click on and see if the photographer has left his name. If there is any uncertainty, please contact Femen India as it is their volunteers that compiled  the different open source images from so many different Web sources and for those who wish to support their mission to create substantive changes in India. Please follow their Facebook site: Femen India and the Femen official website in Russian and English

We are NOT Prostitutes (c) femen.org

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For Articles and information about this in the Mainstream Media:

BBC News

The Independent

Times of India

Guardian

Reuters

CNN

South China Morning Post

Voices of America News

Hunger Strike news from IndiaToday.in

And this dramatic interview with one of the accused’s father:

“If my son is guilty, Hang him…” in Hindi

A 23-year-old para-medical student from Uttarakand, who was travelling in a bus with her male friend, was allegedly gang-raped by four men inside the moving bus and then thrown out of it after being brutally assaulted with an iron rod. Ram Singh, the driver of the bus, his brother Mukesh, Vinay Kumar, an assistant gym instructor and Pawan Gupta, a fruit seller were arrested by Delhi police on Tuesday (December 18). Father of accused Vinay Kumar said to TIMES NOW that his son should be punished if found guilty.

Voices of Women Worldwide VOWW TV founder  and Indian National Vinanti Sarkar

has also been over-clocking in her lobby efforts about this issue!

A message posted by Collins Okello has gone Viral thanks to all global efforts worldwide

and the effort of our members art VOWW.tv!!!

Damini

From Cecilia.W.Yu Voww.tv Country Representative in the far east:

At the time of this posting, 161,041  saw the message, 

73,514 commented and 43,367 Shared this on Facebook

Our statistical calculations indicate that

at an absolute minimal so far

7Million directly and 35 Million exponentially spreading

Background:

Damini (name given to the victim as a tribute to her Braveheart (also name used in english media)

Bollywood film of the same name: Damini

Reason for this Name also has its basis in one of the Largest Grossing Bollywood film in history:

Damini – Lightning is a 1993 Hindi film directed by Rajkumar Santoshi starring Rishi Kapoor, Meenakshi Sheshadri, Sunny Deol, Amrish Puri, Tinu Anand and Paresh Rawal in lead roles.

The story is of how a woman fights against society for justice.

It is a tragedy of this Indian movie plot is that somehow Life imitates Art!

Let us hope that India will not be relying on the well-meaning but Drunken Lawyer to seek justice!

Though judging by Ajay’s letter to the Indian President, maybe Bollywood needs to step in and make a movie before Attitudes will ever change???? If so, Please get on with it!!!!

I know of no better actress to play this brave young woman than Karina Kapoor, or maybe Manisha Koirala ( how about it darling?)

she is styled and her face is shaped like Damini!

Vinanti is a dear friend of mine and she recently met the President of India in New York during an UN-related event

She wrote:

VOICES OF WOMEN WORLDWIDE & VOW-TV’s member in Australia shares the photos of Damini – the girl who was gang-raped …
She was a student
She was 23
Her fault some people say because she boarded the wrong bus
And oh yeah
SHE WAS A GIRL
Six men raped her one by one and then used an iron rod to tear her vagina
Small intestine and large intestine came out
They left her to die on the road
Naked
Wounded
Exposed
Devastated
What’s more is that no one even turned to look at her
No one even bothered to throw a shawl on the ill-clad
ill-fated girl
She can never live a normal married life again
She Went into coma five times since 16th December
She was unconscious
Critical and hasn’t been able to stop crying
But don’t worry
She wasn’t your sister
She wasn’t your daughter
But she could be. The brutality has to stop right here guys
These people deserve capital punishment for their heinous
Perverted act
She died yesterday Saturday 28th
December 2012
Rest in Peace♥ and I pray that her killers get the WORST punishment possible
This doesn’t only happen in India..
But in every country around the world..
Is this how we treat our women?
It Makes me ashamed to even live on this planet today

If her death Touches YOU & UR against RAPE
Write: “R.I.P”

If YOU Support RAPE
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COMMENT & SHARE with atleast 10 of YOUR best FRIENDS! Tell them to LIKE COLLINS OKELLO so they can receive daily update from us on this story. The culprits MUST pay for this. I’M FOLLOWING THIS STORY TO THE END TILL DAMINI GETS FULL JUSTICE.

Damini was to marry her boyfriend in February, was shopping for wedding outfits, neighbors say.

cantonese damini

And spread amongst Protestors in Hong kong:

Traditional Chinese:

【一宗輪奸案,引爆全民怨,震撼全世界! 】因為她誤上非法巴士,她被6名男

子輪姦,更被用生鏽的鐵管直插入她的陰道,嚴重致傷大腸和內臟構造!

她死了!她死不瞑目!妮巴雅,我們向您致以最高的敬意!

1個share= 1祝福

1個like= 1個關懷

她的名字叫做妮巴雅Nirbhaya,她原本有著光明的前途和亮麗的人生。她才23

歲,是印度新德里大學醫科高才生,畢業後成了實習醫師,有親密男友,她正要

開始享受幸福舒適的人生。

可惜,因為誤上非法巴士,他的男友被圍毆,她被6名男子輪姦,更被這6個禽獸

用生鏽的鐵管直插入她的陰道,嚴重致傷大腸和內臟構造!幾天來一直在和死神

拔河。

在醫院急救室裡,她曾經甦醒過來,她鬥志頑強,她說她絕對要抗爭到底,要那6

只禽獸得到應有的懲罰!她的悲慘遭遇引起印度全民激憤,紛紛走上街頭示威抗

議政府縱容強姦犯。連日來,已經引發多起警民衝突事件。

妮巴雅過後陷入暈迷,印度醫院為她進行過三次手術,仍然無法令她脫離險境;

印度內政部接受醫師建議,把她轉送新加坡伊麗莎白醫院搶救,8位專科醫師歷經

24小時奮力搶救,依然無法挽回她的生命。院方指出,受害者除了心肺衰竭,腦

部也受重創,另外肺部和腹部受感染,大腸和其他腸道超過90%損壞,回天無

力。因器官嚴重衰竭,於當地時間29日凌晨4時45分,在家人的陪伴下平靜離

世。

新加坡伊麗莎白醫院發布聲明宣布女大生妮巴雅逝世消息,並表示因妮巴雅身體

及腦部皆受重傷,僅管由8名專科醫師組成的醫療團隊盡力搶救,但病人這兩天卻

情況持續惡化,導致器官嚴重衰竭不治。

我們會永遠記得你所受到的痛苦、折磨;也感受到您的勇敢、堅強的奮鬥精神!

您教導了我們,應該如何向社會的不公不義進行反擊,如何爭取自己的權利和正

義!您值得我們尊敬!希望您安息,希望您的家人早日走出痛苦的折磨。

**** And Spreading Amongst those from Mainland China …..In simplified Chinese:

【一宗轮奸案,引爆全民怨,震撼全世界!】

因为她误上非法巴士,她被6名男子轮奸,更被用生锈的铁管直插入她的阴道,严重致伤大肠和内脏构造!

她死了!她死不瞑目!妮巴雅,我们向您致以最高的敬意!

1个share= 1祝福
1个like= 1个关怀

她的名字叫做妮巴雅Nirbhaya,她原本有着光明的前途和亮丽的人生。她才23

岁,是印度新德里大学医科高才生,毕业后成了实习医师,有親密男友,她正要

开始享受幸福舒适的人生。

可惜,因为误上非法巴士,他的男友被围殴,她被6名男子轮奸,更被这6个禽兽

用生锈的铁管直插入她的阴道,严重致伤大肠和内脏构造!幾天來一直在和死神

拔河。

在医院急救室里,她曾经苏醒过来,她斗志顽强,她说她绝对要抗争到底,要那

6只禽兽得到应有的惩罚!她的悲惨遭遇引起印度全民激愤,纷纷走上街头示威抗

议政府纵容强奸犯。连日来,已经引发多起警民冲突事件。

妮巴雅过后陷入晕迷,印度医院为她进行过三次手术,仍然无法令她脱离险境;

印度內政部接受醫師建議,把她轉送新加坡伊麗莎白醫院搶救,8位专科医师历经

24小时奋力抢救,依然无法挽回她的生命。院方指出,受害者除了心肺衰竭,腦

部也受重創,另外肺部和腹部受感染,大肠和其他肠道超过90%损坏,回天无

力。因器官嚴重衰竭,於當地時間29日凌晨4時45分,在家人的陪伴下平静离

世。

新加坡伊麗莎白醫院發布聲明宣布女大生妮巴雅逝世消息,並表示因妮巴雅身體

及腦部皆受重傷,僅管由8名專科醫師組成的醫療團隊盡力搶救,但病人這兩天卻

情況持續惡化,導致器官嚴重衰竭不治。

我们会永远记得你所受到的痛苦、折磨;也感受到您的勇敢、坚强的奋斗精神!

您教导了我们,应该如何向社会的不公不义进行反击,如何争取自己的权利和正

义!您值得我们尊敬!希望您安息,希望您的家人早日走出痛苦的折磨。

Cecilia’s response was: “Vina, isn’t it time somebody took these Stats. and highlight some of these empassioned Open letters to the President of India and ask his administration to “Do something in 2013 about all this?” 🙂 

11 comments on “Delhi, India: 99 photos of Anti-Gang Rape Protest 印度全民激憤!

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    • ceciliawyu
      April 1, 2014

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    February 14, 2014

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      February 16, 2014

      Hiya. No. I dont want to get that up close and personal. I dont know how to turn off this new hyperlinking function….thanks for letting me know. 🙂 have a lovely weekend. X

  3. Thanks , I’ve found out now. However, what about the conclusion?
    Are you positive about the punishment?

    • ceciliawyu
      November 3, 2013

      What? they got tried in court. I think they got the death penalty or something….the girl is dead. In short it is a lose-lose situation and completely senseless.

      Am I positive about the punishment? Don’t know. I would rather they never committed the crime and the girl is alive and well.

      If you are asking about my position on death penalty…I don’t know. I think it should not be based on generic reasons like “oh it is too expensive to keep them in prisons for life!”, “Fry them now and let god take care of it if they were innocent!” (yeah, thank you Texas!) and “Revenge is best served cold.” (George “Whatever” Bush)….

      So good question and thank you. But I honestly don’ know! Take good care…Keep up the IQ thing….I like it! 🙂

  4. 手機 Jie
    June 12, 2013

    Sorry for the huge hassble with your review in chinese, but I’m really loving the new style, and hope will be adding to the excellent reviews some other people have written, wishing to will help china decide on the correct choice, voting for you because you are right and you know chinese people hearts better than our bad government.

    • ceciliawyu
      June 20, 2013

      眾人惑惑,我獨不從。
      內藏我知,不與人論技。
      我雖尊高,人莫害我。
      夫江河長百谷者,以其卑下也。
      天道無親,常與善人。
      戒之哉!戒之哉!

      We know what is in your hearts in Hong kong because “your people will be my people”… Use your conscience! 🙂

  5. Roderick
    May 31, 2013

    Do not give out your card information if it is possible that identity thieves try to capture your credit card even if the transaction didn’t go through so you need to have memorized the passwords and never leave it around. However, the high risk includes DVD s mailed and those provider offers for digital telephone service.

    I read you got your credit card stolen in Berlin. Be careful!

    From CC: Thank you. It is okay now. It was years ago. Very kind of you.

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    January 8, 2013

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    I love your blog and check it every day.the blog has grown so much. Wish you the blog more success!

    Please like my property page for Anand in Gujarat! I see your blog from Gujarat news online! I try to have a good business and not hurt anyone!
    Please help me show my property!

    property in anand
    Resort in anand
    flats in ahmedabad

    • ceciliawyu
      January 8, 2013

      WTF? You want to sell property while discussing the gang-rape case???
      Sure I will post your link if you get your finger out and donate at least 35% of your profit (NET!) from sale of luxury flats/houses/resorts to help women in Gujarat who are being sold into brothels and to help Rape victims there and let me suggest this, if there is a stigma with that for your property business..(hey, I know India, even if I am chinese-aussie!)…then put it all under “Girl Child and Mother-care Education” = in real terms : Rescue women out of brothels, educate their duaghters!

      If you do that I will let your property link stay here!
      But I won’t translate it or flag it to anyone chinese or australia or anywhere unless you can show me evidence that your business is willing to do that!

      I think that is fair and I trust that you are a man of your words and that you are just trying to have an honest business and not hurt anyone by helping women who are hurt by evil bastards who are not like you! 🙂 Get your wife and daughter to start a charity, I know you are a wealthy man if you can broker resorts, so c’mon, be a good Modern Indian man! Help women who had been raped in India!

      btw Does anyone know why I am interesting to Gujarat news online? I still don’t understand why they linked to my blog…..???? Does it say anything in Hindi, please can you tell me if it does?

      Goodluck! Protect women in your country and I want karma to visit those sleazy guys really fast! May Durga bless and protect you and all those around you if you do as I suggest!

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